Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/21/1993 01:45 PM Senate JUD

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 SENATOR TAYLOR introduced  SB 185  (LIMITATIONS PERIOD FOR TAX                
 ASSESSMENTS) as the first order of business.                                  
                                                                               
 LARRY MEYERS, Director, Income & Excise Audit Division,                       
 Department of Revenue, stated the department's support for SB
 185.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 040                                                                    
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked Mr. Meyers what currently is the oldest                  
 unresolved tax case.  LARRY MEYERS responded that the oldest                  
 unresolved tax case in the Income & Excise Audit Division was                 
 approximately ten years old.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 075                                                                    
                                                                               
 PAUL SULLIVAN, General Tax Counsel, Exxon Company, U.S.A.,                    
 stated the company's strong opposition to SB 185.                             
                                                                               
 Mr. Sullivan said the committee is being asked to consider a                  
 bill containing statements of "legislative findings and                       
 purpose" that are clearly incorrect and not factually                         
 supported.  He said the facts are:                                            
                                                                               
  (1)  This bill is merely an after the fact administrative                    
 interpretation of the current assessment deadline statute.                    
 The interpretation is an issue the department has flip-flopped                
 on since 1978.                                                                
                                                                               
  (2)  The department's prior interpretation of the                            
 assessment deadline statute is not correct and the Alaska                     
 Court has told the department so.                                             
                                                                               
  (3)  The department's ability to audit tax returns is not                    
 constrained by its audit resources.                                           
                                                                               
  (4)  Taxpayers did not contribute to any delay in the                        
 period required to issue tax assessments.                                     
                                                                               
  (5)  Arguments that substantial public revenues are at                       
 risk in pending litigation cannot be substantiated.                           
                                                                               
  (6)  The statement that the decisions reached by the                         
 Superior Court in the Exxon and Tesoro Petroleum Corporation                  
 cases are inconsistent is not supportable; in fact they're not                
 even related.                                                                 
                                                                               
  (7)  Three years is enough time to analyze a taxpayer's                      
 return and determine the taxes due the state.  In addition,                   
 the statute allows for further written extensions if                          
 necessary.  Exxon has always granted division requests for                    
 extensions.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Mr. Sullivan said that there should be no doubt that this                     
 legislative proposal attempts to completely change the statute                
 under which taxpayers have conducted their business for the                   
 last 17 years.  He said Exxon has had a long-standing                         
 interpretation and practice with respect to the existing                      
 statute.  The difference between Exxon's interpretation and                   
 that state's is that Exxon's has been reviewed by the Alaska                  
 Court and accepted, while the state's interpretation, first                   
 revealed in May of 1989, was reviewed and has been rejected.                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Mr. Sullivan outlined the following reasons why SB 185 is bad                 
 legislation:                                                                  
                                                                               
  (1)  It removes any incentive for the division to bring                      
 cases to final resolution while they try to create new ways                   
 to extract more money from the taxpayers that will ultimately                 
 not be supportable.                                                           
                                                                               
  (2)  It leaves taxpayers at the whim of the division and                     
 never able to finally resolve their tax years in Alaska.                      
                                                                               
  (3)  It will increase an already over burdensome                             
 litigation situation on tax issues in Alaska since taxpayers                  
 will be required to defend against some entirely new and                      
 perhaps misdirected interpretation embodied in an assessment                  
 that could be issued 15, 20 or more years after the fact.                     
                                                                               
 Referring to testimony at a previous hearing on SB 185, Mr.                   
 Sullivan said it was suggested that the Texas statute on                      
 assessments was similar to SB 185.  He said that is not true.                 
 Texas has a four-year period for assessments, except in the                   
 case of taxpayer refund claims.  No new assessments may be                    
 made after the four-year period, the only exception being                     
 taxpayer refund claims.                                                       
                                                                               
 Concluding his testimony, Mr. Sullivan urged rejection of SB
 185.                                                                          
                                                                               
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 ATTORNEY GENERAL CHARLES COLE, Department of Law, stated he                   
 disagreed with Mr. Sullivan's testimony.                                      
                                                                               
 Attorney General Cole said Exxon was incorrect in stating that                
 the assessment may not be amended if there is an                              
 administrative appeal.  He noted an assistant attorney general                
 had spoken to the Texas comptroller earlier in the day and she                
 was assured that the theory of the Alaska proposed statute,                   
 which was before the committee, was applicable in Texas.                      
                                                                               
 Attorney General Cole said one of reasons that the state wants                
 to have SB 185 enacted is so that there won't be any                          
 misunderstanding or confusion in the Alaska Supreme Court                     
 about what the law of this state should be as declared by the                 
 legislature.  He said they ask by virtue of this legislation                  
 to make clear to the Alaska Supreme Court as to what the                      
 legislative policy is in Alaska.                                              
                                                                               
 Attorney General Cole declared that SB 185 is not changing the                
 substantive law of taxation in the State of Alaska, as was                    
 indicated by Exxon.  He said it is only a situation where it                  
 affects tax law dealing with the statute of limitations.                      
                                                                               
 Attorney General Cole said it is a uncontroverted fact that                   
 the resources of the Department of Revenue to audit the                       
 returns in this area have been constrained.  In addition,                     
 resolving these cases takes so long because Exxon and other                   
 taxpayers and producers string them out themselves.  They can                 
 quickly ask for a formal hearing, a formal hearing can be held                
 and the issue can be resolved expeditiously.                                  
                                                                               
 In his closing comments, Attorney General Cole reiterated that                
 the State of Texas has the very same statute that is being                    
 sought in SB 185.                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 93-47, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 005                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE asked Attorney General Cole why is was a good                  
 idea to have the bill retroactive.  ATTORNEY GENERAL COLE                     
 answered that first it all it is constitutional, and in the                   
 state's view the issue should be clarified that the                           
 Legislature intended that if the taxpayer appeals from an                     
 assessment during the administrative appeal process and the                   
 judicial appeal process, that the department may raise as well                
 as lower the assessment so that the assessments need not be                   
 litigated through the courts for the next ten or fifteen years                
 to resolve this issue.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE asked if the state would be in the position of                 
 gaining additional revenues if the bill passes and changes                    
 were made by the Department of Revenue in the amount owed in                  
 the assessment.  ATTORNEY GENERAL COLE answered that it is                    
 conceivable that if the legislation is not enacted, the Alaska                
 Supreme Court could get confused and it would be very costly                  
 to the state.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 145                                                                    
                                                                               
 PAUL SULLIVAN said Exxon has kept their books and records and                 
 they continue to keep them with respect to known assessments.                 
 His concern is 20 years down the road when the people who were                
 involved in the transactions are no longer there or can't                     
 remember, particularly when you have legislation which is                     
 retroactive 17 years.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 175                                                                    
                                                                               
 There being no further testimony on SB 185, SENATOR TAYLOR                    
 closed the public hearing.                                                    

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